Reasonable Force

Today whilst I was at work I was having a brief passing natter to a colleague, he was absent from work the day previous, I was enquiring as to what had happened for him to be away.

The BOSSES use less tact, but that is another story and maybe not for another day, needless to say I had lost ALL respect for this hapless couple many moons ago. But like I say that is another story.

Simon was away because he had, that night got home from a night out with his wife only to find he was being burgled, he called the police from his house while the burglars were busy helping themselves. Naturally he confronted them knowing, thinking, the police would arrive any minute as he had told the call centre that the burglary was in progress.

One of the burglars had taken a knife from his kitchen and threatened him with it so he backed off and the burglars left.

Now I admire his efforts to confront the burglars and I also admire his being brave enough to back off.

Anyway 20 minute after the burglars had left the, well let’s assume for now that, the police arrived. I say assume because they really could not be called police – the police are here to SERVE their public and in this case they failed miserably. Not only did they not turn up within a reasonable (REMEMBER THIS WORD) time they just took a statement and as usual mouthed the words procedure and that they may not find who DONE IT.

It is what we have or should have expected from the doughnut scoffing order taking violent inclined police to do, but enough of that.

In the INTERVIEW Simon asked ’If I was to have tackled the burglar while he was wielding a knife in my own home, what would have been the consequences, if I had inadvertently hurt him?’ The dumb fuck of a copper replied that he may be prosecuted for assault.

Oh?

So while trying to protect his property and the lives of himself and the wife HE MAY be prosecuted for assault?

When asked why this would be the FUZZ replied, well it is a case of ‘REASONABLE FORCE’.

Now this conversation was all I needed to start thinking of my next BLOG

‘REASONABLE FORCE’ and what is meant by reasonable force. Would that be the reasonable force WE are supposed to adhere to or the REASONABLE FORCE the police use on innocent women, children and men.

The TWO definitions to me are POLES apart.

On the one hand we have over a thousand (1000+) DEATHS of suspects whilst in custody, the thousands of peaceful demonstrators beaten to a pulp on the streets demonstrating against our government, and rightfully so, and then there are the countless others who for NO reason (remember reason-ABLE) who are beaten by the police and IN that number I include my own son. So what are we assume when a copper SPOUTS the words – Reasonable Force?

The other part to this reasonable force is what we are expected to achieve and it boils down to NOTHING, why? Because we do not have a CRIMINAL GANG of corrupt and violent thugs to LIE through their teeth to get us off the charge. PLUS we do NOT have the option to resign and the whole thing goes away.

So I will leave you with this thought, the next time you are in court and have to answer to the question of REASONABLE FORCE, ask the judge or as is increasingly happening the magistrate WHICH definition does he require – the one WE are supposed to adhere to or the one the POLICE use ad nauseum on innocent victims and while you are at it ASK if while the police are beating the CRAP out of someone DO THEY NOT HAVE A DUTY OF CARE TO THE PUBLIC?

The depths of my revulsion for the cops gets ever deeper, and before anyone spouts the crap about there being DECENT cops out there, yes there are some compassionate cops and there are some decent ones however I would like to ask WHERE are they, NOW! more than ever we need these police to make a stand but, as I suspect they are more concerned with the next pay packet or not making waves or some other excuse that floats their boat.

AND yes there are some who are making a stand BUT and it is a BIG BUT they are in the minority of the majority of those that could / want to do something. Brave they are but they are being let down by those other lily livered scared to death wannabes who need to grow a pair.

Now I would happily support these brave police men and women BUT, another BIG BUT, the police have more than a passing interest in SUBVERSIVE COVERT other wise known as Agent provocateurs - In other words those police that are willing to do the whistle blowing are going to have to go public and then, only then will they get any sort of protection or support from the public.

Love to hear what all you guys think.

Namaste, rev phil;

I AM a FREE-MAN

I AM a FREE-MAN

Published by: feelfree on 29th Jun 2011 | View all blogs by feelfree

I have, on occasion, been stopped by the policymen and on occasion been cautioned, have been in court, stood my ground against all comers; authorities and corporations and on all but a few occasions 'WON'.

Because in my 'HEART of HEARTS' I AM a FREE-MAN.

Even when I had no idea of what being a freeman was. Being a FREEMAN is instinctive, pushing against those that wish to control and putting them 'fairly in their place' is what being a freeman / woman is all about.

There are NO rules to being born and there are no rules that keep me living, save consuming food, air and water. These three things are all I need to continue in existence on this planet, AND are FREE?

Yes everything I require to survive is FREE!
I have chosen to live under shelter and eat food that has been, until now, convenient.
I partake in products that have travelled far to get to me and I know I have to PAY for these things.
I understand and am willing to be a part of such a society, and given the choice I would BE a willing part of it.

This is ‘BEING’ a FREEMAN / WOMAN.

We all come under the same laws and have equal access to those LAWS, YET there is an interloper; a comer inner, something that stands in my way that denies me access to all that I am eligible and it is ‘AUTHORITY’.

Somewhere, sometime, it seems there is/was a group that believe(s/d) I am incapable of fending for myself and has taken it upon themselves to ‘MANAGE’ me, my life, from cradle to grave and I do not accept this edict.

How this has come about is no mystery to me or to those others we call FREEMAN / WOMAN.

It is the 'FREEDOM' that we have been ‘GIVEN’ by those who think they are in control that I do not agree with.
I can accept to a degree that there are things I need not concern myself with. Yes we elect ‘managers’ to control aspects of our lives that are beneficial to us all, it is true. However what has been happening over the years is that those elected ‘managers’ have run out of things to do, they have employed close relatives, given jobs to the ‘BOYS’ and fed theirs, and their own egos to the point that they believe they are ‘MORE’ than those that elected them.

Because there are more people in ‘MANAGEMENT’ than there are tasks, they have ‘INVENTED’ more tasks. A hierarchy developed and the rest is, as it were, HISTORY.

The solution, then, is to devolve the power structure and maintain a working ‘MANAGEMENT’, however those who started this cycle, initially, forgot to pass down the information pertaining to ‘WHO holds the real POWER’. So when the people cottoned on to the transition of power, moves where made to redress it.

This is the REASON for FREEMEN / WOMEN, but those who hold office in this ‘OUR’ country are under the impression that we TOLD them we do not want POWER and that they MUST control all aspects of our lives, they have become comfortable, nay, accustomed to it and will fight to maintain this position at all costs, all the laws, statutes and acts are placed there as weapons to protect their positions.

Anyone who protests and fights against those who weild these weapons, in whatever way they believe is right, ARE  (Free men / women ).

The documents and scripts on this forum and many others are methods, so far, employed at redressing the ballance of power and are by no means the only way.

Your TASK, if you chose to accept it, is to research and find ways to make being in power uncomfortable and an iritant, until remedy is gained.

Hope this is understandable ( I think I have outlied the essentials)

Namaste, rev;

HOLLIE GREIG (Case now 12 years old)

Here is an OPEN letter re-produced for you to read. The other reason is that it will put YET more information on the web regarding HOLLIE GREIG.

My question IS are we going to get an answer?

We are, after all, under the impression that this letter HAS, as it has, gone directly to the LEADER of the Scottish government. As such we would NORMALLY expect a reply to all the questions given in the letter.

If there is NOTHING to HIDE all the questions can be answered, however this is NOT the first time these questions have been asked. SO it can only conclude that something IS BEING HIDDEN.

There IS a paedophile ring of who's members seem to be quite influential, MUCH weight has been put on this, to the point that the subject is considered closed. Because of the 'COVER UP', seemingly, it does seem that Mr Salmond is NOT in 'FULL' control and someone other than the head of the government IS piling weight to bury this case. Well this is HOW it seems to me - WHY ELSE would they wish for this to go away and Mr Salmond is quite incapable of answering these questions, NOT because he is not answering them, because of the secrecy, I believe there is someone else TELLING HIM what to do.

Now I would like to know, not only the answers to these questions but, WHO is it that is SO POWERFUL that he controls the Scottish ministers.

So you see at the end of this letter the writer is correct. It will not go away AND they, by their ignorance of it, ARE digging themselves a hole that they eventually - WELL PASSED THAT NOW - NOT be able to get out of or recover from.

An open email, to the First Minister, calling for a public inquiry Posted on February 4, 2012 by webmaster I have just received an email from Anne (yes, her own email), asking me to put this open email up on the site. An open email, to the First Minister, calling for a public inquiry. by Ian McFerran on Saturday, 4 February 2012 at 15:49 Mr Salmond, This is an open email to you, calling for a public inquiry into the allegations made by HOLLIE GREIG and the conduct of yourself, your Ministers and others throughout this case, since the year 2000. You will recall that I have contacted you many times in respect of the corruption of your Ministers and Office, not least your Minister known as The Lord Advocate (now Dame) Elish Angiolini QC. I formally placed you on notice, via a Freedom of Information request, on 28th January 2011 with the questions repeated below (similar questions being sent to the, then, Lord Advocate Elish Angiolini), none of which were answered by your Office of the Office of the Lord Advocate. This lead to the Information Commissioner becoming involved, forcing your Office to comply with my request or face charges of Contempt of Court. Your reply was week, to say the least, claiming, as your Office did, not to have knowledge or record of such matters. The questions to your Office were: 1.When did you first become aware of the allegations made by Hollie Greig about her being abused by members of a high-ranking paedophile ring in Scotland? 2.What actions, if any, did you take after becoming aware of Hollie Greig’s allegations? 3.What action does your Office – or you – intend taking regarding the inaction of your Government’s, then Procurator Fiscal and now Lord Advocate, Mrs Elish Angiolini, thereby placing other children at risk of abuse by this alleged paedophile ring? 4.What action does your Office – or you – intend taking in respect of Mrs Angiolini proven attempts to cover-up this specific case related to Hollie Greig? You will be aware of the attempts of your Lord Advocate to cover-up this case due to the emails I and many others have been sending to you and copying you into, which contained links to comments, speeches and letters made by Robert Green and his supporters. The information contained in those emails, for the best part of a year, clearly demonstrate the Lord Advocate’s involvement in this most despicable of cover-ups. Please feel free to review my previous emails to you for assistance in answering this point and the previous point. 5.Why have you not replied to my persistent email requests for your involvement, as the First Minister for Scotland, to bring a criminal investigation or instigate a public enquiry into the lack of a proper ‘full’ Police investigation in this matter where the witnesses and accused are actually questioned rather than either ignored or left to go about their business, respectively? 6.When can the Scottish people expect to see their First Minister act to amend the public perception of non-action by you and your Office, which amounts to a dereliction of duty and bringing the reputation of a public office into disrepute? It is worth noting that, in respect of questions 3, 4 and 6, to date, NOTHING has been done. As such, children and vulnerable adults remain at risk due to your apparent lack of interest of concern for them. On Tuesday 17th January 2012, in Stonehaven Open Court, it was clearly established that Grampian Police Force had failed in their sworn legal duty to fully and thoroughly investigate the claims made to them by Hollie Greig in respect of a high-ranking paedophile ring operating within the Scottish borders and apparently being protected by members of the Scottish legal system, ‘special needs’ education system, medical and social welfare professions. The case in question was that of Robert Green who had been charged with Breach of the Peace (SH10000189) and found guilty by Sheriff Bowen, who has been professionally associated with one of the key witnesses, Elish Angiolini, since at least December 2001. In case the information hasn’t reached your Office yet, Sheriff Bowen denied Robert Green the opportunity to question two key prosecution witnesses, one of which was his professional associate for more than ten years (Angiolini) and also denied Robert Green the chance to speak freely in his own defence under oath by preventing Robert Green from making a statement in his defence. Innocently, Sheriff Bowen also refused to confirm or deny whether he was a Freemason at the start of the trial. The allegations made by Hollie Greig were done so, formally, to Grampian Police Force in the year 2000 and again, formally, in 2009 – that time witnessed by Robert Green – who now faces sentencing from a Sheriff who is strongly suspected of being a Freemason, who failed to declare his professional association with a key witness and who denied the accused the chance to question witnesses or speak freely in his own defence. Given you have been aware of the entire case related to Hollie Greig on numerous occasions and by numerous sources, as well as the ongoing persecution of Robert Green by your Lord Advocate and Grampian Police Force, and that you are now in possession of facts which bring into question the honesty and integrity of your judicial system (Sheriff Bowen), I now demand that you stop protecting your corrupt friends in the Scottish Government and legal/law-enforcement professions and establish a full public inquiry into the allegations made by Hollie Greig (which, as established in Open Court, to date, have never been properly investigated) and also into the persecution of Robert Green. This email has been copied very widely and I hereby encourage others to do likewise and approach you and your Office with a similar request as this is a matter of great public interest – especially as Dame Angiolini is now a suspect in a criminal investigation into the misappropriation of public funds directly related to the case of Hollie Greig. Mr Salmond, the case of Hollie Greig will NOT go away! The more you and your corrupt friends try to cover it up, the deeper the hole you are digging for yourselves and the louder and louder the public will shout. To end this matter, there is only ONE option open to you, as a pubic servant – a public inquiry! I have one final question to put to you and your Office, does the Scottish Government, headed by you, still feel that Elish Angiolini is worthy of her Dame-hood? I await your response within 14 consecutive days. I trust I will not have to involve the Information Commissioner again. Yours, Ian McFerran Read more: http://www.disclose.tv/forum/eat-this-and-choke-salmond-you-fat-pedo-protector-t67156.html#ixzz1zZq0E5UV

It is NEVER going to go away

Take note Mr 'Cast Iron', 'Call me Dave' There is and always will be, regardless of what Mr T B(LIAR) did a few years ago the CRIME OF SEDITION AND TREASON, Misprision of treason, Misfeasance in public office, contravening the official secrets act, conspiracy and fraudulent accounting.

This all started many years ago and before any of the current ministers in power were in any way able to be a part of the problem (1971).
Prime minister Edward Heath (long since dispatched to HELL) Lied to the British public and placed us firmly under a foreign power (EEC then) EU now.

Tony the LIAR got rather worried about being caught out a few years ago and as such thought he could write out of the statutes the crime and punishment of TREASON, shortly after that he, without warning or being dismissed, FLED the office of Prime Minister and opted to enter into a private life.
The fact that the LIAR and TRAITOR left the government was cheered by all of this Isle is now history, he should never be forgotten, just as the child molester and TRAITOR Edward Heath should never be forgotten for his treason - this is NOT me speaking this is HISTORY and the documentation, evidence is bountiful. This message is ECHOED by thousands of others who know these facts to be true and there are witnesses to the facts.

IGNORANCE of the LAW is NO defence, Mr 'Call me Dave' and as such, and being in the office of Prime Minister you are well aware of the TREASON of your previous office holders, this puts you in the position of Misprision of Treason, at the VERY LEAST. However, not satisfied with the illegal acts of your predecessors you have promoted  their acts and furthered their cause, which places the CRIME of TREASON squarely on your HEAD.

Let me remind you of the punishment for these crimes.
Sedition                          LIFE IMPRISONMENT
Treason                          HANGING
Fraudulent Accounting    10 Years 
Misfeasance in Office      >2 - 5 < Years
Conspiracy                     Depending, what the conspiracy to do is but could be hanging or as little as 2 Years
Official Secret Act          10 Years

I would like to remind you that the TREASON LAW is not an ACT nor is it a Statute it is a CONSTITUTIONAL LAW and at least a TREATY and as such cannot EVER be repealed.
The ACT or TREASON ACT is on the statute books and HAD been transferred to the statute book and CAN be repealed but it cannot AFFECT or EFFECT the actual CONSTITUTION. The TREASON LAW still stands as it has done for centuries, regardless of the ACT being repealed.

I have written to the Queen and pointed this out, however because of the usurpation of her power, which Cameron has done nothing to put right - places Cameron 'Cast Iron' Dave in the co-conspiracy group.

Now ALL this can be solved and it is quite easy to do, first David Cameron should dissolve government, but before that he should place on the statute books that any person currently holding office or who has been previously convicted of a crime or offence should be banned for life for entering politics. The Monarch should be released from any restrictions other than her constitutional obligations and a NEW parliament should be formed 'UNDER COMMON LAW, of this country. Any treaty that has been signed on behalf of the people to be reviewed or repealed. Failure to do this will further deepen the CRIME of TREASON.

Further to this any one wishing to enter government or parliament should be required to swear an OATH to the 'PEOPLE' of this country, that they are under the WILL of the People and or their elected representatives and that to break this OATH brings the High Crime of TREASON and as such will be prosecuted and punished in the manner required by the 'PEOPLE'. Maximum of which is HANGING.

Last but NOT least, the FULL disclosure of ALL dealings with other parties or governments or countries who have conspired with our elected representatives to bring about a WORLD government, AKA New World Order.

All the other CRIMES, such as War Criminal crimes will be dealt with on an individual basis: Murder of previously serving military personnel, Foreign civilians, activists, scientists, journalists and the many other people will be taken into account along with all the other crimes.

The CALL is out for ALL those who are ABLE to convene a 'Popular Peoples Convention', The agenda is as set out above, primarily. The basis for Common LAW courts has already been convened as has the posse comitatus. Many Judges, Lawyers and 'Queens Council' have made it known that they are willing and able, the vast majority of the POLICE are ready to take up the cause and the military have disclosed their interest and support.

The MOVEMENT has grown over the last few years and it will not be long before more judges will be arrested as was the case in Birkenhead - All it took was 500 good men / women and true, However it was only four or five that executed the arrest. It is with GREAT SADNESS that our COUNTRIES HERO 'LOKI' A freeman on the land has departed this planet, LOKI is the one sat in the Judges seat at Birkenhead. He WILL I am sure be haunting a few well known places and probably a few courts. He will always be with us and we with him.

To those FEW and those who helped in the court and those outside - The country owes you a debt of gratitude for your revealing the corruption and perversion of justice.

That is ALL for now.

Namaste, rev;