Wednesday 25 July 2012

Reasonable Force


Today whilst I was at work I was having a brief passing natter to a colleague, he was absent from work the day previous, I was enquiring as to what had happened for him to be away.
The BOSSES use less tact, but that is another story and maybe not for another day, needless to say I had lost ALL respect for this hapless couple many moons ago. But like I say that is another story.
Simon was away because he had, that night got home from a night out with his wife only to find he was being burgled, he called the police from his house while the burglars were busy helping themselves. Naturally he confronted them knowing, thinking, the police would arrive any minute as he had told the call centre that the burglary was in progress.
One of the burglars had taken a knife from his kitchen and threatened him with it so he backed off and the burglars left.

Now I admire his efforts to confront the burglars and I also admire his being brave enough to back off.

Anyway 20 minute after the burglars had left the, well let’s assume for now that, the police arrived. I say assume because they really could not be called police – the police are here to SERVE their public and in this case they failed miserably. Not only did they not turn up within a reasonable (REMEMBER THIS WORD) time they just took a statement and as usual mouthed the words procedure and that they may not find who DONE IT.
It is what we have or should have expected from the doughnut scoffing order taking violent inclined police to do, but enough of that.

In the INTERVIEW Simon asked ’If I was to have tackled the burglar while he was wielding a knife in my own home, what would have been the consequences, if I had inadvertently hurt him?’ The dumb fuck of a copper replied that he may be prosecuted for assault.
Oh?
So while trying to protect his property and the lives of himself and the wife HE MAY be prosecuted for assault?
When asked why this would be the FUZZ replied, well it is a case of ‘REASONABLE FORCE’.

Now this conversation was all I needed to start thinking of my next BLOG

‘REASONABLE FORCE’ and what is meant by reasonable force. Would that be the reasonable force WE are supposed to adhere to or the REASONABLE FORCE the police use on innocent women, children and men.

The TWO definitions to me are POLES apart.
On the one hand we have over a thousand (1000+) DEATHS of suspects whilst in custody, the thousands of peaceful demonstrators beaten to a pulp on the streets demonstrating against our government, and rightfully so, and then there are the countless others who for NO reason (remember reason-ABLE) who are beaten by the police and IN that number I include my own son. So what are we assume when a copper SPOUTS the words – Reasonable Force?

The other part to this reasonable force is what we are expected to achieve and it boils down to NOTHING, why? Because we do not have a CRIMINAL GANG of corrupt and violent thugs to LIE through their teeth to get us off the charge. PLUS we do NOT have the option to resign and the whole thing goes away.

So I will leave you with this thought, the next time you are in court and have to answer to the question of REASONABLE FORCE, ask the judge or as is increasingly happening the magistrate WHICH definition does he require – the one WE are supposed to adhere to or the one the POLICE use ad nauseum on innocent victims and while you are at it ASK if while the police are beating the CRAP out of someone DO THEY NOT HAVE A DUTY OF CARE TO THE PUBLIC?

The depths of my revulsion for the cops gets ever deeper, and before anyone spouts the crap about there being DECENT cops out there, yes there are some compassionate cops and there are some decent ones however I would like to ask WHERE are they, NOW! more than ever we need these police to make a stand but, as I suspect they are more concerned with the next pay packet or not making waves or some other excuse that floats their boat.

AND yes there are some who are making a stand BUT and it is a BIG BUT they are in the minority of the majority of those that could / want to do something. Brave they are but they are being let down by those other lily livered scared to death wannabes who need to grow a pair.

Now I would happily support these brave police men and women BUT, another BIG BUT, the police have more than a passing interest in SUBVERSIVE COVERT other wise known as Agent provocateurs - In other words those police that are willing to do the whistle blowing are going to have to go public and then, only then will they get any sort of protection or support from the public.

Love to hear what all you guys think.

Namaste, rev phil;

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